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2008-03-18 [Artsieladie]: Good, I'm glad. When you do get featured on Mainstreet, it's nice to see it. :)
2008-03-18 [Morningstar Rising]: yeah it is, its my second feature, but I don't recall the first one, that is so funny.
2008-03-19 [Artsieladie]: he he It just so happens I just came across it, b/c I was looking for the poem links to my featured poems. If you click this, you will see your other featured DP: <URL:poems.
2008-03-19 [Morningstar Rising]: okay thanks, going to see. LOL
2008-03-19 [Morningstar Rising]: found it and I really don't recall that poem being put on mainstreet, kind of weird.
2008-03-19 [Artsieladie]: YW! Really? *gives Shay some stuff to enhance memory* *winks*
2008-03-19 [Morningstar Rising]: *lol* Thanks a lot.
2008-03-19 [Artsieladie]: *laughs* *takes some, too!* Hmm...what's this stuff? *shakes container & reads label*
WARNING: Do not take this if you are trying to remember. Only take this if you are trying to forget.
Ooops! I think I gave you the wrong stuff! LOL
2008-03-19 [Morningstar Rising]: *looks at you oddly.* What you talking about SSShhhhh, ummm whats, ummmmm who are you. hehehehehehe
2008-03-19 [Artsieladie]: *looks back at this female looking at me oddly & tilts head from side to side* Yes, miss? Do I know you? Who am I? *thinks* Hmm...I don't know! Who are you? tehetehetehe
2008-03-20 [Morningstar Rising]: *lol* If only that were possible, wonder what the world would be like.
2008-03-20 [Artsieladie]: It would be a huge plus right now. I wouldn't remember someone at all nor would I remember my bestest friend, so I wouldn't be missing him!!! :'(
2008-03-21 [Morningstar Rising]: but remembering and working through those feelings is what makes life worth living.
2008-03-21 [Artsieladie]: Maybe at one time I might agree, but not right now. Each time I get knocked down, it seems to take that much more to pull myself back up & dust myself off to be ready to face the next catastrophe. I think I'll just stay down this time. :P
2008-03-22 [Morningstar Rising]: Sweety, if life was easy, there would be no struggles, but since it is not, there will always be struggles to cope with. Giving up is the easiest thing in the world to do, but living life, rising back up when you are knocked to the ground, over and over again, that is hard. But because we can't let the ghost rest just yet, that is what we will do.
2008-03-23 [Artsieladie]: I don't mind & I'm not afraid to deal with things that are tough. I'm certainly not afraid of work, not just online work. I'm talking about real physical labor. In spite of having a heart condition all my life, I have never let it stop me. If there was anything that placed a limitation on me b/c of it, I always found some way to work around it. But...heartbre
2008-03-25 [Morningstar Rising]: *smiles and holds out hand* here I will help you, cause I am not going to let you lay there with all this negitive weight on you. I know its hard and its not peachy as you put it, my life and your life are not about being easy. Look at all that we have lived, and learned in our journey through the path that has been set for us. Bad times and good times, sad times and happy times, life and death. They all go hand in hand and I know that at times, more often then we would like, the scale tilts towards the darker side of life. But there is always light, even in darkness. Close your eyes and see from the inside out and you will see what I mean. Even in the darkest of places, we have light within our souls. Don't give up Sharon, you still have a purpose to serve in this life. I don't know what it is, but I do know that your heart is wide and kind and most of all honest. *huggles my sister*
2008-06-09 [Artsieladie]: Somehow I missed your comment here. The path that's right to follow is less traveled than the path that's laced with temptations abided. It's always easier to give in to temptations than it is to resist them. Justifications made for conceding to these temptations are infinite, but anything that needs justification is usually wrong to begin with for what's right never needs justification. I have found that standing up & speaking for what's right & just & for the truth, can make one a very unpopular person, but it shall not deter me from doing the same in the future. Inevitably all truths are eventually revealed & I would much prefer to be on the side of truth where there is fewer in number, than be on the side of lies, where the population is far greater. Thank you for recognising that which I strive to achieve, to be. Thank you for your belief & faith in me. May I always be deserving of your wonderful friendship. *huggles my sister back*
2008-07-05 [Morningstar Rising]: *smile* That was a while back. and yes it is easier to walk the path of darkness then the path of rightness. I am not perfect, but I do the best that I can with this life that I have. There are days when I just want to lay down and not ever rise again, but am glad that I find it within myself to go on. You will always have my friendship, I am not one to end friendships without a really good cause. And there is nothing that anyone can say to me about you that would make me do such a thing. Good friends are rare these days, so many pretending to be with you what they really are not. Stay Sharon, she is a good soul and maybe not in this life, but in the one beyond, you will find what it is that will make you happy. *giant hugs*
2008-07-06 [Artsieladie]: *giant hugs back* ...And I've also discovered the better person you try to be, the more jealous enemies you make. People find satisfaction in putting another down to make themselves more appealing, to make themselves look better. A friend of mine told me once, "When people talk about you, they are jealous, and when they are talking about you, they are leaving some other poor soul alone." Indeed! Good friends are so hard to find, as well as people one can truly trust. Many will sell you up the river, if they think they can benefit from it. '/
2008-07-16 [Morningstar Rising]: ain't that the truth, seems there is a lot of jealousy going around this place. I am happy that no one pays me much attention, keeps me out of the lime light and off the lips of others. Your friend is right, but I say this, YOu must really be very interesting for others to have so much to say about you. Especially when all they are talking is shit to try and bring you down. Most times its best to just let them yap, eventually they will hang themselves with their own venom.
2008-07-16 [Artsieladie]: You are not the only one that knows & senses this, my dear. My flooded email boxes so speak for themselves & they speak volumes! It doesn't pay in the end to remain on the side of lies, b/c lies develop big gaping holes that continually grow bigger & bigger, while the truth always remains the constant. I only can pray for those that choose the darker path, b/c they do not know what lies ahead for them. I only wish that the one I think so much of would allow 'self to step into the light, for I do not want this person dragged down deeper into their darkness.
They are doing exactly this, but they aren't aware that they are. I am loyal to a fault, but I also know exactly where to place my enemies & I'm learning just how well I can use the power that I've been blessed with & you know what I mean. *winks & hugs*
2008-07-16 [Morningstar Rising]: *LOL*, yeah I sure do know what you mean.
2008-10-12 [Alexi Ice]: Why would people possibly want to be mean to you
*blushes*
Maybe I wasn't supposed to read that. Honestly I wasn't prying, I promise...I was just curious...!!! ....please don't be mad...
2008-10-12 [Artsieladie]: Hmm.... well, actually, that's a very good question. :P
I don't have any problem with you reading this. No worries! *hugs*
2008-10-12 [Alexi Ice]: Well I don't understand it. You have been nothing but nice to me, and it seems to everyone else I come across that knows who you are...though I wonder if jealousy has something to do with it
^^ Just making sure...I didn't want to intrude...
2008-10-12 [Artsieladie]: Well, I think it's just as easy to be nice as it is not to be. Besides, why would 'not-so-nice' be chosen over 'nice'? What is the benefit in such for all parties involved? It's been my experience, if you are nice to other people or most other people, they will be nice in return usually. Could be. To me jealousy is a wasted energy form and it is often a vicious motivator and therefore can only produce negative returns. :)
You're not intruding. ;)
2008-10-12 [Alexi Ice]: Definatly, and definatly. Lol. We seem to share the same morals, it seems.
Alright, good ^^
2008-10-13 [Artsieladie]: Yes, it does seem so. :D
:D
2008-10-13 [Alexi Ice]: ^^
2008-11-28 [Captain Rachel Black]: *gapes*...holl
2008-11-28 [Alexi Ice]: I didnt know toast could be holy. lol.
2008-11-28 [Artsieladie]: Hi, ladies! So nice of you to stop by! True, but there's also 'holy smokes', too. hehe ;)
I really need to update this page. ;P
2008-11-28 [Alexi Ice]: You do, missy! ^^ Updating is always good. And I was only kidding....heh
2008-11-28 [Artsieladie]: Ya, ya! Actually, I've discovered there are many things that are put with holy. lol I need to put you to work! Mua-ua! ;)
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Ok! Send me a mission and I shall do my best (Just took like...thousan
2008-11-29 [Artsieladie]: Great! I might of mine, but I don't have a working camera at present and getting my hands on my daughter's is almost as difficult as pulling teeth. :P Ok, do you like setting up wiki pages? *smirks and giggles... and then winks*
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Well, I used my camera phone since my camera is evil.
Of course, what do you need?
2008-11-29 [Artsieladie]: Hmm.. I have to play the lottery! I've got the numbers 38, 8, and 20 so far and an index thrown in for good measure, but I don't think playing 'index' will work in the lottery. I'm laughing my butsky off and you haven't a clue as to what I'm talking about. It's a good thing I do! hehe haha *giggles*
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Your right..I dont understand in the slightest.....
2008-11-29 [Artsieladie]: Well, I'm gathering numbers: 38, 8, 20, 2, 39, 52, and 43 are the numbers thus far. *grins and winks*
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Well if you need numbers, my lucky ones are 21, 32 and and 3. lol.
2008-11-29 [Artsieladie]: Mine are 7, 8, and 22. :)
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Well, I was born on the 22 but... I don't like the number. hehehe.
2008-11-30 [Captain Rachel Black]: *jumps up and down* 14! 14! 14!
2008-11-30 [Artsieladie]: Testing /[Hedda]
2008-11-30 [Captain Rachel Black]: *blinkblink* 0_0?
2008-11-30 [Alexi Ice]: Don't ask, Rachel. lol.
2008-11-30 [Hedda]: I'm just testing stuff with [Artsieladie]'s account, but it's apparently an issue with Opera:
http://elftown
2008-11-30 [Alexi Ice]: Ah, her server is what did her in, in the end. I see. That is a bit odd, I wonder why it is only the one that doesn't work...?
2008-11-30 [Hedda]: Eh, no. She doesn't have any server.
Opera, her browser, is the problem.
2008-11-30 [Alexi Ice]: That is what I meant...Either way, that is kind of odd.
2008-11-30 [Captain Rachel Black]: I...will not ask every again XD
2008-12-01 [Artsieladie]: I was born on the 22nd too. :P
Ok, I'm logged in through Firefox right now. The link worked ok. Now if someone will please kindly leave another comment, I'll click on it using Opera and then see what happens.
[Captain Rachel Black], please don't hesitate to ask. You don't usually get answers if you don't ask questions. I think Mitsuki might have meant that it's a really long story, because it really is! But then, maybe it's not what she meant. lol :P
2008-12-01 [Captain Rachel Black]: I know I was just confused :P do 22, it was our star football players number this year on our team, he got state player of the year. AAANDUH it is the number of the rookie running back that just won the bronco game! yay! lol XD
...does that work? as a comment I mean hehe
2008-12-01 [Hedda]: [Artsieladie]: I know what's wrong, as I've already written above. No need to test anything more.
2008-12-01 [Artsieladie]: Thank you, [Captain Rachel Black]! I appreciate it. :D
I was just curious, that's all, [Hedda]. I logged out of Opera's browser, so I could login through Firefox, but after I logged out from Firefox, I logged back in under Opera. I was taken to http://www.top
2008-12-01 [Hedda]: The toppensidor stuff is a bug. I think I removed it now. I guess you got the redirect there after you logged out.
2008-12-01 [Artsieladie]: This just seems so weird. Opera has been working so well for me, until this, but I still like the fact that it keeps the pages loaded.
2008-12-01 [Alexi Ice]: Really? The twenty second of what, may I ask? I was born in July.
And Sorry Rachel, that is what I meant. I didn't mean to see mean.
2008-12-01 [Artsieladie]: Of February. I'm a Pisces and my number is 7. You're a Leo. You fit a Leo, but because you're right on the cusp between Leo and Cancer, you have Cancer tendencies, too. My sun sign is Pisces, but my rising sign, Scorpio, is my projectory to the outside world. This is good, because it makes people think I have one hell of a sting, while my real side is about as gentle as they come, which makes me more vulnerable than I would like. Just curious... have you ever heard of the seventh child born of the seventh child? (7th Child Of 7th Child) They have to be of the same gender, though. Like the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter or a seventh son of a seventh son. I've been trying to find out more about it. I've found out quite a bit thus far, but as usual I want to know more. One person that knows a lot about this, I found recently, explained to me that I have great powers within my grasp. I'm hoping to be able to spend more time with her, because when I first told her that I was such a child, her face became as white as a sheet, almost like she had seen a ghost. Being the curious sort of person I am, I just have to know more! :)
2008-12-01 [Alexi Ice]: I watched the seeker, so I kind of know what it is. Though I am not sure if you are emdowed with magical powers but it is still pretty cool! ^^ I will have to check it out.
I think it is reversed in me, I am a Cancer that had Leo tendancies ^^ I have no idea what my sun sign is, but I love astrology! It is so amazing!
2008-12-01 [Artsieladie]: Your sun sign is depicted by the day you were born. So your sun sign is Leo.
I've never seen the seeker, but I'm not a big movie person. It's not so much magic as it is to having certain abilities, being born with them and having a destiny prelaid out for you. If I were into the dark magics, it would be a totally different scenario, but my faith is in God, which the number 7 is very closely connected with God. I can't explain it, but I have an amazing ability to interact with animals. Many people have noticed this and have pointed this out to me. I have dreams that are preludes of things to come and I have an uncanny ability for ESP. I can feel people's innermost feelings, especially their heartaches, despair, lonliness, and so on as though they were my own. It's really hard to explain. When people lie to me, it puts me hot on their trail to seek the truth they are covering up and this is a very compelling force within me. I have very strong instincts. When I follow them, I'm fine. It is only when I don't listen to my instincts that I run into trouble. :P Trust me, when I feel that something is weird, you can know that I'm feeling some specific vibes. ;)
2008-12-01 [Hedda]: [Artsieladie]: The bug-report is sent to Opera. I hope they'll fix it to the next version.
2008-12-01 [Artsieladie]: Ok, thanks, [Hedda]! I'm sorry this has been a problem for you.
2008-12-01 [Alexi Ice]: I don't recomend it myself, it was a horrible movie.
I belive that, considering I am a fire sign and a water sign, I am a contradicting spirit all the way around. ^^ lol.
I am wiccan, so what you are saying makes a lot of sense to me. I belive strong in connections to psychy and third eyes and things, so I completly understand what your saying ^^ That is really cool.
2008-12-01 [Artsieladie]: Oh, good. I won't add it to my to-do list then. lol
It doesn't mean you are contradictory, I don't believe. It means that you are influenced by both, which I would also think would give you an edge, rather than not. I'm on the cusp between Pisces and Aquarius, water and air. Hedda is on the cusp between Sagittarius and Scorpio, fire and water. He too, is influenced by both fire and water, the same as you. A Cancerian however, is ruled by emotion and feelings, influenced by the moon. They are very sensitive people usually. My daughter is one. A Scorpion, however, is much different. They are sensitive, too, but it's carried more within and when they are hurt or betrayed, they never forget. That stinger is not there for mere looks. Trust me. I have a brother and a sister and several friends that are Scorpions.
I find it quite fascinating. I don't know all that much about Wiccan, but I always like to learn about the different beliefs, cultures, and customs of folks. Being a member of Elftown has put me in touch with many people from varying backgrounds and I think this is quite remarkable in itself. :)
Have you ever heard of the term of someone being born with a veil over their face? It has medical explanations, but this isn't what I'm referring to, because it also has spiritual meaning as well. ;P
2008-12-02 [Alexi Ice]: That does sound cool, it gives me power and control riht ^^
I don't either, most of what I know, my mother has taught me. I am not a devout practicioner, I just like to learn.
No, I havn't actually, what is it?
2008-12-02 [Artsieladie]: Knowledge is power. How the power is used is up to the individual. :)
Hmm... and I was hoping you would build my knowledge through yours! *winks*
People born with a veil over their face have amazing capabilities, kinda' like an ultimate psychic. Fooling such a person is totally out of the question. It's like they can read your mind, see right through you. O..O
2008-12-02 [Captain Rachel Black]: wow..this is really off subject but I thought it required a reply. Don't worry [Alexi Ice] I didn't take it as an insult in anyway ^^
oh and on a side note I have this creepy thing that always happens to me. I think things and then they happen. For instance. The day my family was involved in a 3 car, auto accident I had thought to myself about four hours before hand what it was like to be in a car accident. The next recollection I have of this is when I was at a parade of old style cars and I said to my mom, "I want to see a Thunderbird!" and the next car to roll by was a T-Bird. Two seconds later I once again said, "Now I wanna see a Baracuda!" what do yah know but a Cuda is the next car.
Another instance was when I was practicing my honor choir music and picked up the music in no particular order and thought to myself,"It would be creepy if that's the order we perform them in" and it was. Most recently we were on the football bus coming down the hill that runs down into our town (I live in a valley) and one of the coaches stands up as we are going down the hill, I turn to my friend and say "wouldn't it be bad if we hit the brakes right-" I was cut off as the bus hit the break and the coach fell over and almost toppled into the driver. o_0
2008-12-02 [Alexi Ice]: Knowlege is power! LOL What show is that quoted from again?
Well, ask me a question and I shall answer to the best of my abilities, I do have a wealth of knowlege ^^
I have always wanted to read minds...that would be amazing!
Rachel - Ok, that is good ! I was worried there for a second.
That sounds like a cool power. I belive that all people have the power to make things happen, have you ever heard of Abraham Hicks? They talk a lot about that kind of force
2008-12-02 [Captain Rachel Black]: Nevery heard of him actually...*go
2008-12-02 [Alexi Ice]: Definatly google it! The stuff they say is amazing (they are the ones who published the book 'the seeker')
2008-12-02 [Artsieladie]: I think we each do have powers that we aren't aware of, some more so than others. :)
Things are getting
2008-12-02 [Alexi Ice]: Seeing things? Hmmmm...
2008-12-03 [Artsieladie]: Yeah, that's what someone would say. But boy, knowledge most definitely IS power!
2008-12-17 [Artsieladie]: I'm thinking about making a wiki page that will have all of this weird stuff and other on it, so people can see that I don't have 6 heads. :P
2008-12-17 [Captain Rachel Black]: ...how will that prove the lack of your extra 5 heads? XD
2008-12-18 [Artsieladie]: Ah, literally taken. hehe It's an expression. ;)
2008-12-18 [Alexi Ice]: LOL I get it. sounds like a plan to me.
2008-12-18 [bluefarie]: Mom, there's something weird going on here. i'm on this page, For The L♥ve Of A Community - Elftown!, but it says:
http://elftown
i took a screen grab of this page for you to add to ur collection.
2008-12-19 [Artsieladie]: Maybe because it usually comes up like this:
http://elftown
...Without the extra "y=6&" and "&x=32". But it's working now when I click on it, Hedda, so that's all that matters to me. My daughter was on Firefox, too, so that could also have made a difference. I don't know. Basically, Elftown and weird just seem to go hand in hand for me for some reason. I thought when I got Opera things would be 'normal', but nope, not normal. I'm getting so accustomed to things being weird on ET that maybe I will never even know what normal is for me and ET anymore. I give up with it.
2008-12-19 [Hedda]: The extra x and y don't do anything.
2008-12-20 [Artsieladie]: I see. Well, we aren't all as smart as you are, Hedda. lol ;)
What's up with at the top of this page:
"Search ads by Chitika (Chitika is a working link)"?
It takes me to:
http://chitika
I don't have a problem with it. I'm just curious. ^ ^
2009-01-25 [Artsieladie]: Boy, do I have to update this page and give it a fresh look! I hope it previews better than my Elftown Graphics *Artsie_ladie* page. When you're a fanatic about very specific editing, it can get a little irritating when the preview of your edit is different than how it actually turns out with the wiki page viewing. :/
2009-02-08 [dragonspirit]: Artsie, this is dragonspirit, are you on this page
2009-02-08 [dragonspirit]: I am a new member to this site and I have been checking out varios houses randomly and I must say some of them are pretty impressive
2009-02-08 [dragonspirit]: I am at work and have a few minute break so I thought I would browse. Artsis_Ladie, do you do a lot of set-up wotk for the competitions, etc.
2009-02-08 [dragonspirit]: please drop me a line in the comment section and let me know, I have a ptivate site and am looking for someone to do some graphics , etc. I am willing to discuss payment
2009-02-08 [dragonspirit]: That is a private site, sorry about the missed spelling
2009-02-08 [Artsieladie]: Oh, hi! hehe again! I'm here. I'm usually always around Elftown somewhere. :) I'm curious. Wanna tell me more? :D
2009-02-08 [Artsieladie]: Am I to assume that you've seen some of my graphics then? *grins* Then you must like? I like the sound of doing art/graphics, because I love making graphics. You also say "etc". Can you elaborate a bit on the "etc"?
Yeah, I love Elftown. *huggles ET* Actually this page needs some major updating, but I haven't gotten to it yet.
How do you like Elftown so far? What are some of the things about Elftown that are simple to understand and what are some of the things that are a bit more confusing, perhaps? What do think of the application system? Sorry! A lot of questions, but as I mentioned to you on Contact: *Artsie_ladie*/Sharon Donnelly, I'm gathering some thoughts and ideas to try and make Elftown more new user friendly, more easily.
2009-02-15 [dragonspirit]: Hi there Artsie, this is dragonspirit. How are you today.I have seen your graphics pages, yor wiki pages and just about every page that you have designed, contests you have enterd, poetry you have written, including short stories, etc. I must say thay I am most impressed.
2009-02-15 [dragonspirit]: Your art work is awesome, I particularly like your unicornsand your artwork about the elftown site. MMMMN, MOST IMPRESSIVE
2009-02-15 [dragonspirit]: By the way, today is a very special day, so I have a little poem for you, Artsie
Roses are red, Violets are blue
The Ladie to meet, my dear, is you
My beautiful Ladie, I hope you see
The admiration I have for thee
So glad I'm here, Just in time
And so I ask, My Valentine
Are the chances good or slim to none
for you to be my Vaalentine
C Lee
2009-02-15 [dragonspirit]: I fine Elftown quite interesting. Navigating isn't too difficult, yet, I still have a lot more exploring to do, but I am looking forward to it. Your art, poetry, etc, caught my eye, when my friend who is a member was logged on one night while i was visiting, I was mighty intrigued to say the least.
2009-02-15 [dragonspirit]: That is find Elftown, sorry, sometimes it is hard for me to see the keys, it is quite dark in this library here at work
2009-02-15 [dragonspirit]: I have to go back to work, I will be back on my break
2009-02-15 [Artsieladie]: Hi! Wow! *blushes* That's a nice poem. I don't know quite what to say! I'm not quite used to such wonderfully, sweet treatment and such a flood of nice compliments! *blushes more* Thank you! I can't really graciously accept a compliment to save my life, though. :P
Oh my word! Am I the 'ladie' you are referring to in your house? O..O I just remembered what I saw in your house. So I just went back and read it again. ...Or am I being presumptuous? 
"Roses are red, Violets are blue
A ladie is here, I intend to persie (pursue?)..."
-CHRISTIAN LEE
(I only ask because you spell lady as "ladie", which is how I spell it in my Elftown name.) :P
2009-02-15 [Artsieladie]: Can you tell that I like to be creative and love Elftown? hehe I brag about Elftown every single chance I get! *ish proud Elftowner*
About your little poem... honestly, I don't really see myself as beautiful, just pretty much ordinary. I do not like my photo taken at all, because I think my pictures are always awful. :P
I just started a new project wiki for Elftowners called Eyecatching Artworks. I spend a lot of time on Elftown's Mainstreet and very often a random image, usually art, from a member's house, catches my eye. So, the thought occurred to me, it might be nice to let them know that it does. The only catch is that they have to be Elftown regulars, so their images appear, but this might give some encouragement to login more often. :D
We have a couple of huge ongoing projects on Elftown. They are the Elftown Photo Reference Marathon and the Elftown Creature Marathon. I am a mod for the latter one and have been since almost its beginning. I've been very involved with it right from its beginning. Our goal here in regards to the ECM is to create the best and most informative creature pages on the entire internet. The goal of the Elftown Photo Reference Marathon is to build the best and hugest library of good quality photos for all people to use as references or for whatever purpose they need them for around the world. We set our sights high here on Elftown, because the sky is the limit, erm, or at least, I think it is anyway. 
I donated an extensive amount of time, graphics, etc., for the first creature featured, ECM Pegasus @ *Artsie's* Pegasus - The Great Winged One. Now I just started another wiki I hope to put much into as well for the ECM Unicorn @ The Magic Of The Unicorn. I like Pegasus, Unicorns, and Dragons, I think the most of all the fantasy creatures. ;)
2009-02-16 [dragonspirit]: Hi there, Artsie, Yes, I was referring to you. There isn't another Artsie here, is there. I don't think there is, so yes, I am referring to you. There is only one person on here that I am interested in. Your beauty Has captured my heart, as well as your art, poetry and pure talent. You are amazing. I see that you are single and I wonder why there was no response to my request of you being my valentine. Is there perhaps someone in your life that you are involved with. I could sure understand if there was, but if not I am sure interested in getting to know you.
2009-02-16 [dragonspirit]: I am single, never been married,I have been in relationshios, but they just didn't seem to work out, but I never give up hope that someday I will meet the right ladie
2009-02-16 [dragonspirit]: By the way, have you put ant thought into working for me on my website. I am so blown away by all that you do for this site, I sure hope that your talents are appreciated and that you are getting compensated for all of your dedication and talent. I have known a lot of artist and poetry writers, but you do sure have pure talent. You really have a great gift and you should be rewarded.
2009-02-16 [dragonspirit]: Is there someway that you could be contacted, so that we could discuss this at length. I surely do not want to take you away from this site, but I could sure use your expertise and talents to help me put some beauty on my site. Please let me know THANK YOU=====I look forward to hearing from you
2009-02-16 [dragonspirit]: By the way thank you for correcting my typo. sometimes it is hard for me to see in here, the lighting sucks. Again thanks.
2009-02-16 [Artsieladie]: Oh, my! Oh, my! I am really at a loss for words! Considering that I'm a yakkity type person, or so I'm told, this is quite the moment in itself. I don't think there is another Artsie, either. I guess I can't get over the fact that you've basically joined Elftown to get to know me!?! I just don't know how to handle that beauty stuff. I have been told this about my art and writing many times (and I'm not very gracious about this, either) and of course, I love to hear it (what artist wouldn't, right), but me? My looks? I really don't know what more to say than thank you.
2009-02-16 [Artsieladie]: Ok.. I guess I'll try to answer here one thing at a time.
I am single, but I'm not really looking. I'm not totally closed off to the possibility, though, either. I'll try to explain as honestly as I can and to make as much sense as I can. Although, my current state is not something I understand all that well myself.
I do like someone probably more than I should. Several years ago, after being badly hurt yet again, I pretty much swore off any more involvements as far as anything with a romantic nature. I swore I would never let another man in my heart. But... things don't always happen the way we decide they should and one day I realised the presence of another man in my heart. My first instinct was to try and throw him out of there, but it seemed the more I tried to expel him, the more intense his presence became. Then when I finally accepted his presence, it seems I've been on an emotional roller coaster ever since. I can't stand the ups and downs, the mixed signals, and it's literally driving me up a wall. I find it hard to understand, if a person likes you, why don't they just be upfront about it or if they don't, well, then be upfront about it. I don't believe in dangling someone on a string and I guess this is why I'm trying to explain what really doesn't make sense to me, explain this to you. But if it doesn't make sense to me, I don't know how I can explain it to you or anyone else, really.
Since this fellow chooses to keep himself in the dark, I dunno, maybe I should just move on, because I somehow doubt if he will ever stand up and say what he's thinking or feeling and I think I have had enough frustration because of it to last me a lifetime. He knows how I feel, but I do not know how he feels and I doubt I ever will. There isn't much I won't accept from or won't do or go through for a person I love for they are entitled to privileges that no one else is. So I must be very careful whom I travel down my journey of life with.
Now you are getting a taste of my novel tendencies. I've been accused many times of writing a whole lot of babbling crap.
Now, to finally get to your question... now that I've somewhat explained a complicated situation. I don't usually reject the idea of getting to know anyone. But to travel down a path of romance with me, I won't say yes or no, until I've had a chance to get to know someone. I like compliments and kind words and all that, but I don't usually allow them to lead me anywhere. If I fall for someone, I fall for ALL of that person, so I want to know both the positives and the negatives. Not that I'm saying that you aren't being real here, because you likely are, but I just want to emphasize that I like 'real' the best. I'm the type of person that will be less impressed by one that goes out of their way to impress me, as opposed to one that doesn't try to impress me at all, but rather let me see them as they really are. I hope I'm making sense here. I hope I'm not offending you in any way, either, because this certainly isn't my intention. It's just that I believe in being honest and upfront right off the bat, with no pussy-footing business. :P
So, I say, how about you and I get to know each other better first? I must ask one thing or maybe a few things, however. Do you have a problem with communication? Do you have a problem with talking? Do you have a problem with kidding around? I like to kid around and have fun. Life is too short not to, I think. However, at the same time, I take my commitments very seriously. This person I like now seems to have great difficulty in talking to me or with me. Even on the phone apparently, too! Getting to know a person that remains silent most of the time is not easy, not to mention, it leaves so much open for misinterpretat
2009-02-17 [Artsieladie]: I'll be back to answer your other questions. :)
2009-02-17 [Artsieladie]: Hmm... *looks at page watching numbers* Must be too nice things are being said here about me. Inside joke, [dragonspirit], only it really isn't funny. 
Now, to your other questions/infe
I would like to hear more about working for your website. I must make something perfectly clear, however, beforehand. I am, have been, and I plan on continuing to remain dedicated to Elftown. I believe wholeheartedly in the main goal(s) here. I guess this means I support the owner of this site for it is he that made it possible to begin with and continues to make it possible for all Elftowners to enjoy and get so much out of it. Therefore, I will never do anything that would result in any competition 'against' Elftown. As long as what you propose does not fall under this aforementioned scenario in any way, I'm open for discussion about what you have in mind.
You can call me on my landline phone. Many people aren't particularly fond of getting my online voicemail, though. So, if you have a day and time when you would like to call me, tell me ahead of time, and I can make a point to be offline to answer your call. I would much prefer this anyway, rather than discuss everything here, because what transpires between 2 people is no one else's business, but theirs. If you get my drift? Besides, I would much prefer talking on the phone, than to have to type everything out. ;)
2009-02-19 [Captain Rachel Black]: Al we are in the same emotional/love situation >.>
2009-02-19 [Artsieladie]: It sucks, doesn't it? :/ How do you deal with it? :)
2009-02-20 [Captain Rachel Black]: I let him totally take advantage of me e_e
2009-02-20 [Artsieladie]: Hmm... yesh, they can get away with a lot for sure, but... I will never allow "total" advantage of me. Oh, noezzzzzzzz! Nevah! ;)
2009-02-20 [Captain Rachel Black]: o_0 er...that's not what I meant...*twitc
2009-02-20 [Artsieladie]: Ohhhhh. ...And what did you mean? ;)
2009-02-21 [Captain Rachel Black]: ahh well it's over as of today >.<'
2009-02-21 [Artsieladie]: Oh, I'm sorry, dear. *hugs*
2009-02-22 [Captain Rachel Black]: eh, it will be easier this way
2009-02-22 [Artsieladie]: Yeah, maybe, but I've found that easier doesn't necessarily make us feel "happy". ;)
2009-02-22 [dragonspirit]: Artsie-- I totaly understand, I will call you on the phone, I will let you know ahead of time. I am a person, who likes to get to know a person, people have many sides, some good, some not so good, and well, then there is the side that maybe we don't want to know at all.; I call this, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Ha Ha I have been single for awhile now, not necessarily a bad thing, since I work long hours and then do overtime as much as I can on top of that, then there is the trying to get some sleep here and there, so as to not collapse from sheer exhaustion. The rest of my time right now is trying to develop my website, which as you know takes up a lot of time, that is why I really do need someone that I can depend on to do some graphics, lettering, etc. Do you do any animations?. Artsie, I am not trying to take you away from Elftown, Hell, without you and your graphics and everything you do there, I am sure you would be sorely missed by many of ther elftowners., so no, that is not my goal, however I would like to discuss compensation for your time, effort, and artistic talents. I look forward to talking with you in detail on the 'ole tele. Keep up the good work here on ET, I am sure that your efforts are appreciated. Later
Dragonspirit
2009-02-22 [Captain Rachel Black]: but sometimes feeling "happy" is not what is truly right for one's self. Aaron can make me feel extremely warm and happy, but he can also make me feel like dirt. In the end I'm going to be able to find someone else who makes me feel like Aaron did, but who won't make my life a living rollercoaster. It might take a while, and I know it's going to be like breaking an addiction for me to end (?whatever it was?) I had with Aaron, but end it must.
2009-02-22 [Artsieladie]: "Happy"... what is that exactly? lol Hmm.. I undertsand. I particularly like it when I am labeled something really low and then in the same sentence practically, I'm told that I'm appreciated. Somehow, I don't feel all that appreciated, especially after I've just been put down and/or had a dagger driven through my heart. I've had my share of dealing with control freaks and I've also done an extensive amount of reading on the topic. I also have a close friend that is a professional councelor with several degrees in psychology. People that feel this need to control others, are insecure individuals. They have this incessant need to cut you down so they can be the ones to build you up. They like to break things, so they are the ones that come to the rescue and fix these things, so they are thought of as some sort of hero. They feel they have the right to treat you like shit, but you are supposed to admire and support them. When you've had enough, you try to walk away, then they all of a sudden will say they are sorry and then do something to make you think they aren't all that bad and you once again give them another chance. Trouble is, these 'second' chances don't usually occur just once, but turn into time and time again. They play on your feelings and abuse the special privileges they have. When you finally, FINALLY, give up, then they don't want someone else to have you either and if you decide to get involved with someone else, well, it's like: "How dare you!"
I see I'm not the only one that has used the phrase, "Whatever it is/was." :P
2009-02-23 [Artsieladie]: Ok, then. I just wanted to be sure that things are clear. I prefer having all the cards placed on the table, then all involved know right where they stand. No gameplaying. :)
My phone number is 518-634-2293. Let me know when you'd like to call me. OK?
2009-02-23 [dragonspirit]: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!
2009-02-23 [dragonspirit]: I sure do hope you had a great day. I hope you did a lot of fun things. I will call you and let you know when I will be able to get some free time to discuss the things about my site. I am sorry that I didn't get over here sooner, but it has been quite a gnarly day here at work. Talk to you real soon, probably Monday night after my first job and before my second. I will have a couple hours to take a break.
Dragonspirit
Again, Happy Birthday ARTSIE_
2009-02-23 [Artsieladie]: Thank you for the birthday wishes! :) I spent my day playing on Elftown, where else, right? ;)
About what time Monday night? I will get offline for a small amount of time, but I won't stay offline waiting for a call, because I can't get anything done that I need to get done online, obviously. ;)
2009-03-02 [Artsieladie]: You know what, [dragonspirit]? Give me a better deal and I'm out of here!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not good enough to talk to, to be given honest answers to. Hell, I'm not even good enough to be on a certain person's relation list, but then, I know why...because this person's name cannot appear on my visitors' list, because there would be repercussions he would have to face!
I'm only good enough to get ridiculed and lied to and about here. I'm supposed to swallow everything. If I say anything, then I'm whining or that I'm such a demander of someone's attention, when all I'm concerned about is his interests. If I try to defend myself, then somehow I'm being the bad person!
I've donated mega, mega amounts of time here and to another site as well, which God knows I do not regret in the slightest, not to mention a considerable amount of money, that I don't even have, which God knows I do not regret in the slightest, and all to be treated like shit in return! Pardon my French! I'm not looking for praise, but I do think I've earned some respect. If I should happen to say anything about what I do do, then I'm told to stop acting like a martyr! I'm accused of being a psychobitch 3 and a drama queen.
As far as my art, well, my art is considered here as "It sucks and that I'm not a veteran of anything." I've only taught art, but yet I don't know a damn thing about it. My last official contest here that I will enter in, because I know how my art is revered here, was the Valentine Art one and even that had to be a fiasco that I didn't ask for. When I tried to do the right thing, I was criticised all the way around.
This very page, I was harassed on by two people that should know better and it was allowed to be, because it was ME that was being harassed and I was just supposed to accept it.
...And now because I dare say anything here, well, I'm just a psychobitch, don't you know?!
I'm tired of paying the price for something I NEVER initiated in the first place! I never flirted with him. I never enticed him! I've never acted inappropriatel
2009-03-02 [windowframe]: This very page, I was harassed on by two people that should know better and it was allowed to be, because it was ME that was being harassed and I was just supposed to accept it.
Wiki-page harassment can only be dealt with when it's reported. Are you sure it wasn't "allowed" simply because you didn't report it to the guards? We try to be omniscient but we fail at it sometimes. :P But the guards don't allow harassment just because of who it is being harassed. :/
2009-03-09 [dragonspirit]: Hi there Artsie_ How is everything, or should I ask, as, I have just been reading. It seems people have nothing better to do with their lives than to get into peoples business, be nosy, be sarcastis, etc. If people would just learn to live their own lives, this world would be a much better place to live. I think the biggest problem here is that too many people are just plain jealous. Pardon me if I am wrong, but it certainly does appear that there are too many clics here, and if you are not in the clic, then you are fodder for their criticism. I apologize if I am wrong, but I have not lived all of my years, spent a lot of time and money studying, not to be able to read people, even it is only through their words, It seems to that as much as you do here, they should at least show some gratitude and appreciation. You get farther in life with honey than vinegar. It would seem to me that as a community more people should consider the concept of teamwork, and there there is no I in Team. I hope I am not coming on too strong here, or stepping on anyones toes, but in todays world people should be able to voice their opinion and not be crucified, or have things that they say torn apart, ridiculed or ostercised. I have been following this site for awhile now, and it seems to me that the politics should stop and everyone should try to work for the betterment of the community. Artsie- I will call you when I get a chance, I have been working a lot of o.t. SORRY
2009-03-12 [Sir_Hans]: This very page, I was harassed on by two people that should know better and it was allowed to be, because it was ME that was being harassed and I was just supposed to accept it.
Yes, she was and I can vouch for this. The trouble with Artsie is that she doesn't want to cause trouble, so she doesn't say much. She takes the hurt inward instead of speaking out because I can see why. When she does speak out, she is treated badly. She won't say by whom here that she was harassed, but I will. She was harassed here by a guard and a former vice mayor and because of who they are, she knew that if she said anything, instead of the offenders being punished she would be instead. The guard's name in SilverFire and the former vice mayor's name is Sunrose. I have seen the harassment and not only on this page. I can't understand how the head of this place can allow this to go on. This is childish, immature behaviour. It certainly does nothing beneficial for this site.
Artsie gets told all the time here that she is paranoid. That is just a convenient retort to slide the guilty's accountability onto her. The fact is there are people here that know what is really going on, but they are afraid to speak up against the former vice mayor and I wouldn't be surprised if the mayor himself is also afraid to as well. It would explain why he turns away from what is going on under his nose.
There is no one else here on this site that deserves the recognition for supporting and promoting this site more than Artsie. You aren't talking to someone that knows her here or online, but I know her in real life. She is the most amazing person. She would give the shirt off her back for this site, for just about anyone, including you, SilverFire. She doesn't carry grudges and if she thought you needed her help, she would without thinking twice.
I think there are people here that are jealous that she does give so much time to this site. They think by making her look bad, this will make themselves look better. A diamond is always a diamond no matter how much crap is piled on top of it. With all of the attempts to make her lose her luster, I see that she is shining around here brighter than ever.
Very little does she promote herself on Elftown, but the endless hours she does for and promotes this site, most wouldn't consider doing a fraction of. It's not only on this site, but on the children's site, too.
For those in the clicque here, if you think that your self absorption isn't evident to the rest of this site's members, you are gravely mistaken. It is also very clear that those that are supposed to support the mayor here don't really support him either. He is more like a puppet here than the mayor. This is not meant to be derogatory towards him, but because he needs to take the control of his site out of the hands of incompetent, self praising, self promoting, inexperienced, immature people and start listening to those that do know what they are talking about and those that do have the experience, the know how and the drive to rightfully promote this site. If he does not, this site will continue to sink until the only ones left here will be the elitist people that are bossing him around now.
For the record, I am writing this while Artsie is taking a nap and I'm sure she will be very angry with me for writing my thoughts here, but what is going on Elftown is appalling. If someone doesn't speak up and point out the obvious, there is no chance for the problems to get corrected. When I see a person, a dear friend, that is such a remarkable person get so badly mistreated, I won't remain silent. We Swedes like to speak our minds, even if what we say seems to be taken offensively. I know that this site is based in Sweden and that the man that is supposed to be running this site is Swedish, as well. Maybe this is one more reason why I had to speak my mind.
2009-03-12 [windowframe]: Yeah, see we don't class someone posting comments you don't like as harassment, especially if you don't bother to say that you don't like them, or ask them not to do it. We're quite reserved about when we interfere with wikis - the owner has to ask someone to stop commenting, and that person then carry on doing it before we step in to tell them to stop. If they don't a) ask them to stop and b) then don't report them, then the guards don't and can't do anything about it (because if you don't report it, they don't know).
Saying that the claim of 'paranoid' is just a convenient retort is just a convenient retort itself. Sometimes if many people tell you something repeatedly, it's because it's true.
And the idea of Hedda being afraid of any of us makes me giggle. Hedda doesn't get involved because he doesn't care, and doesn't see a group of people not getting along as the serious issue other people do.
Very little does she promote herself on Elftown,
She does have an amazing way of promoting how much she doesn't promote herself, though. Which usually involves revealing what she did that she's not promoting. It's quite fantastic.
The rest of it is just paranoid conspiracy crap that isn't worth the time to reply to. You haven't exactly bothered to try and find out if there's another point of view or side to this issue, have you? No, but you know exactly what's going on. Uh-huh.
2009-03-13 [Lerune]: I'd also like to add that the thought of any of us "bossing Hedda" around is completely ludicrous. A puppet? No one makes any massively important decisions without his approval, because this entire site is his creation. Just because everything is not discussed in the open Crew forums does not mean it isn't discussed -- there are several private forums that not all the Crew is privvy to (yes, even Artsie) where many topics are taken.
And as far as harrassment goes, nothing can be done about it if it isn't reported.
2009-03-13 [Sunrose]: Hedda is my bitch :D
2009-03-13 [Hedda]: Yes, I'm totally [Sunrose]'s slave. I'm not even allowed to take a pee without a confirmation SMS from my owner. Sometimes I have the urge to be somewhat nice to people, but then she tells me that I have to spank myself, so I avoid doing that.
The little free time I have left to do what I want, I spend on conspire on making a few people feel very bad about themselves. Just read all the private messages I've sent to you trying to make you hate someone else! I send hundreds of these every day.
2009-03-13 [Sunrose]: That reminds me.. <URL:http:/
2009-03-14 [Calico Tiger]: It's completely understandable that people want to stand up for their friends. To support them 100%. But is it really support if you're only helping them hurt themselves? To me, a real friend is one who looks at both sides of something. Not a skewed version of any one side. And then points out where the flaws are. On both sides. Yes, I do this to my friends all the time. Perhaps they hate me for it. But I'm not going to support a behavior or opinion that is only destructive to oneself and everyone else. And it's even worse for the person who is being told by friends that they're overreacting to suddenly think that they're in on some conspiracy as well. People should listen to those close to them :) And yes, I can make informed decisions. I have the powah!
This is a website that's built for having fun. Not for getting worked up about conspiracies and other weird crap. Honestly, if even 10% of the things were going on that was being accused of going on, you could simply call the authorities and have them deal with it, no? Afterall, stalking is against the law. And if the law does nothing about it? It's probably because the person in question is misconstruing about anything that's gone on. If there was anything in the first place. And not because they're some powerful gawd-like being that can also control the government.
Guys, this is real life. Not some strange soap opera that people are trying to turn it into :) How about going back to the fun that you all came here for in the first place and quit acting like gossipy old hags? No, this isn't an attack on Artsie and her friends or Hedda and his masters :P
Unless one of the old, long-gone members is about to come back and say "I'm not really dead! That was my evil clone!" and suddenly impregnate everyone. Even the men! x) And then yeah... I guess it's a soap opera, lol!
2009-03-14 [Calico Tiger]: And btw... that was [Hedda] showing humor. Not someone hacking into his account and posting that for him or making him post it. I'm sorry, but I suddenly have this vision of people claiming that and that's just... I mean... Seriously... If anyone is honestly believing this and thinking this, you really need to take a break from the internet. Don't participate in things that are just making paranoia issues worse. Sit back and fawking listen to yourself o_O
2009-03-24 [Mortified Penguin]: Only I can boss [Hedda] around. The rest of you can get your own puppets! ...*eats ramen*...
2009-03-27 [Mortified Penguin]: Hey! ...Don't ignore my presence! ...*eats ramen*...
2009-03-29 [Sunrose]: Do you have a horn?
2009-03-29 [Mortified Penguin]: ...yes... in my pants... *eats ramen*...
2009-03-30 [Calico Tiger]: *pokes* Mort, I'm sure this isn't being appreciated (although, that being the case, the owner needs to report it and ask you to stop). But regardless, you know better :P
2009-03-30 [Mortified Penguin]: You're just jealous of my horn! ...but, anyway... *eats ramen*...
2009-04-20 [gruffybear]: Hi there sissy, How come your comments are showing here when you had them fixed so they were mot showing, and you cannot log in to elftown to make this change?
2009-04-20 [bluefarie]: Hi, Aunt S! i would like the answer to this question, too. ;)
2009-04-20 [Calico Tiger]: In case this shows up again, I've fixed it for Artsie so the comments are hidden. Not sure why they're showing again. She can show them again should she wish to when she comes back :)
2009-06-22 [Artsieladie]: Thank you, Calico. :)
2009-06-22 [Mortified Penguin]: Hi.
2009-06-22 [Kyrinn]: Grow up already Artsie. This has gotten ridiculous.
2009-06-22 [Mortified Penguin]: Perhaps it's unsupportive comments like that that drove her to this in the first place.
2009-06-22 [Lerune]: I can't say that is correct in the slightest, Mort. Artsie has been very much supported in the past and even if she refuses to see it, she is being supported now. I think anyone who remotely cares about her can see that she is spending WAY too much time on this site (and in front of the computer in general) which is extremely unhealthy and our attempts to help her have been completely in vain.
That being said, I would ask that people please let Artsie rant as she wants on her OWN page, as she has that right. Kyrinn's comment merely mirrors some of the frustrations that many of us on the crew are feeling right now, but perhaps was misplaced. I'd ask that we be adults and not stir up drama, as there is more than enough of it at the moment. I'm not trying to censor anyone, but I think just about an comments left in response to her outburst are only going to turn into arguments and be completely counter-produc
2009-06-23 [Artsieladie]: Frankly I'm fed up with being told to grow up and to just shut up. Besides this in MY page. I have every right to project my feelings that are WELL JUSTIFIED!
Mort there have been many ungrateful comments made to me. MANY!
Yes I felt I was supported and liked around here UNTIL I STARTED TO GET SUSPICIOUS of a certain person's activities, which raised questions that I sought answers for. Instead of being told the truth a good part of the time I was lied to instead or evaded. The person that I needed and wanted the answers from made sure I felt uncomfortable to ever go to him. This is where this whole mess had its beginnings. Even when I point out and prove why I'm feeling the way I'm feeling, I'm still denied the truth. So because I am not told the whole story, I'm supposed to just settle for the part that makes me look like a paranoid lunatic?
If I want to spend my time that I love to spend in front of my computer, it is my business, my choosing. I have physically worked my ass off my whole life. So if I now want to pursue the online world, finally work with my art and writing, I have every right to do so. I was physically injured so I could no longer groom dogs, so I decided it was time to pursue my art and writing, which has been mostly on a back burner while raising my daughter, because being a mother comes first to me. I have earned this right 10 times over. I enjoy what I do and all that I have done for Elftown and for this I will not apologise. I never knew there was supposed to be a time limit to spend here. It seems instead of putting me down for being so willing to be here and do stuff, I deserve some sort of just the opposite.
I think there are people here that know more than they are telling and so they are just letting me fry. I like how only certain topics are touched upon while other issues are simply just skipped right over.
I am repeating this comment I placed on Eyecatching Artworks in response to another member's comment:
yowsers!!! i'm sorry to hear that babes!! big hugs from me!! hope everything works out kid!!!!!!!
2009-06-23 [Mortified Penguin]: Yeah, I've had a lot of troubles with the guards and council members before too. They tend to think they're better than everyone else here. Sorry to here about all this though. I don't really know you personally, but I do know of all the work you've done for Elftown. It's a shame that they would force someone as helpful and productive as you to go through all this crap...
2009-06-23 [Artsieladie]: Thank you. Many have commented me on how much I do and I've always been delighted to hear it, because I love to support someone or something, in this case both, that I believe in. I'm accused of trying to seek attention or causing drama just because I want a little acknowledgment and/or apology in regards to how I've been treated and have restored what has been taken away from me for DOING NOTHING WRONG. I'm not talking about a couple minor indiscretions here. If anyone else here went through what I've been trying to cope with along with all the other real life issues I've had to face in the past year and a half to two years, they wouldn't be so damned quick to judge me. When you know you've been wronged in many ways, what does anyone expect? Do they honestly expect me to just fade away in the shadows and let it go uncorrected, unaccounted for? ....And while my name gets ruined in the process? I think not.
Actually I don't think there is a person here that I have dealt with that I can honestly say I dislike. Sure, I've had some problems with a few, but if I had known the REAL cause behind it, I would have done things and handled things a whole lot differently. But this is what happens when some very pertinent information is kept from the person that can feel something is amiss, but can't quite put their finger on it. ...And then when you try to get to the bottom of it, you're just placated, I guess in hopes that it will be given up, but that's pretty hard to do when you are reminded constantly that someone wants your attention, but instead accuses you of seeking theirs.
I also feel sometimes like I'm resented because I have done so much, so when I say anything about what I've done, it's like no one wants to hear it. I don't say it to make anyone else feel the lesser or anything like this. It's just that when I support, I support the only way I know how and that is to give it all I can. I never do anything half way. We all give in various ways and amounts in accordance with what we can contribute. It's not about or shouldn't be about 'how much' we each give, but just about what we are 'able to' and appreciated for what we do contribute each and every one of us. I am at a place in my life where I can give this site a lot of my time. So what is the problem? Tomorrow suddenly everything could change in the wink of an eye, so I do what I can today. Is this so wrong? Am I supposed to feel badly about this or be resented for it?
2009-06-23 [Mortified Penguin]: Of course you deserve acknowledgment
2009-06-23 [Artsieladie]: For those I've had problems with, I expect no apology from them, if they are in the dark. But for the ones that know the secrets that lead back to the initial beginning of all this, an apology along with the truth would certainly be refreshing. You see the trouble begins when there are secrets being hidden and should a person get suspicious enough about those secrets, because the person knows they are involved somehow more than they are aware of or even asked for or expected such involvement in the first place, those protecting the secrets will become increasingly protective as the person gets closer and closer to the whole truth. Fortunately the truth has a way of surfacing sooner or later and often without prompting. Sooner or later, the guilt of knowing and being a part of such gets the better of someone and when this happens, the guilt must be alleviated and so they confess. So it might depend on who here has a conscience and who doesn't.
2009-06-23 [Kyrinn]: Not expecting an apology, and I wont be offering one. Ive not dealt with you personally, but frankly, you are really taking this "I want credit where credit is due" thing way too far. By now, a person who has felt wronged has voiced their gripe, gotten it out, and gone on to other things or sites. But instead, YOU drag it out, picking again and again at the same damn things. You dont like the term "Grow up"? Then drop it, and go on. There is no stupid conspiracy out to get you. You have not been "Wronged all over the world", you were banned from the site by the OWNER of the site. Its his site, he can do as he pleases.
Its awfully high and mighty of you to decide for me that I dont have a conscience. God would not like to see you promoting so much hate even if it is just a website. You say mean, spiteful things but cant accept help or a compliment. Ive stood by and watched this and frankly, Im sick of it. And believe it or not, I am not apart of some trap to get at you. Im just getting royally tired of watching a grown woman behave like a twit. [Calico Tiger] made the comments of this page so they couldnt be seen, so YOU made the choice to turn it into yet another drama fest by turning them on and using HUGE TEXT to get your message across.
Arguing with you is pointless, so im just going to stop. And I wish you would too, Artsie. You are the one dirtying your 'reputation' on the net, no one else. You can cut out with the dramatic "I KNOW THE WHOLE TRUTH" shit too while you are at it. Im done.
2009-06-23 [Artsieladie]: Oh really? Did I mention your name specifically anywhere in the above that I was expecting an apology from? Did I mention your name specifically and say that you had no conscience? I'm accused of being defensive, but from where I'm sitting, you are not without this action yourself.
Why should I drop it? Am I getting a little too close to the truth? Is this your reputation on the line? Are you having your privacy invaded? Are you being treated the way I have been? It's so easy for others to judge when they aren't and haven't walked in the shoes of another or in the shoes of the person they are judging. I realise that this all may be annoying to some and things can be when they don't directly affect us adversely. This is just it, someone else's troubles aren't worthy of our time until the same troubles hit home. Then it's a different story.
If he can do as he pleases, then why is it such a problem to admit about placing the heart in my badge slot? Why the big secret? People can do as they please as long as they bring no harm to another.
I say mean spiteful things? Oh but no one has said any mean or spiteful things to me, now have they? It's perfectly alright for others to dish it out at me, against me, but should I defend myself, then I'm the one that's saying mean and spiteful things? Just because I decide to say some things out where the community can have a clue as to what's going on rather being kept in the dark, and so others can hear some of my side of the story, but for this, I'm promoting hatred? Right. How darest I defend myself out in the open like this, because this isn't in a closed forum where I have been cornered several times because I didn't say what was expected of me. I didn't just go along with the rest of the program just to feel like I belonged and no, I'm not pointing a finger at you specifically here either.
I didn't create the "banned member" status on the internet by the way.
No, I'm the one that hid the comments, my dear. Someone else chose to open them up and Calico re-hid them... again.
You know, I don't wish what I've been put through on anyone, but the more I see that I dare say anything, the more perhaps, those that are judging me and saying that I oughta' grow up, or that I'm acting like a twit as you say, then maybe some of you ought to experience what I've been put through and perhaps then, you won't feel quite so high and mighty (to quote your choice of words).
2009-06-23 [windowframe]: then why is it such a problem to admit about placing the heart in my badge slot?
Because it was me. -_- Still. Always. And I have admitted it. Repeatedly.
2009-06-23 [Kyrinn]: Maybe if you listen to those around you, you will get the answer you want. [windowframe] just told you. AGAIN. The entire problem here is, you wont drop it. You ask for answers but claim to know the answers when the answer is given. Then you say in one breath that you love Elftown and in the very next spit on it. and no, you didnt make the 'banned member' status but you have gone on and on and on all by yourself to fit the "crazy person" status.
Take [windowframe] at her word and drop it already. What the hell happened to you, you used to be so nice.
2009-06-23 [Lerune]: Normally, I'd step in and try to put an end to all of this, but I actually think that as long as people stay civil and sane, it'll be good to get it all out.
Artsie...Kyrin
You did say something that was true: it is your life and if you want to spend it on the computer, then that is your right. However, it is COMPLETELY unhealthy to spend as much time as you do sequestered away from the world, living out your life vicariously through the alias you've made for yourself. You were banned to get you away from that for a few days. You were banned because WE'RE CONCERNED about you. You don't believe that, and I don't care. I will continue to say it because it's the truth. We're concerned about your well-being and THAT was the real reason behind the ban. If you don't believe me, I don't care. I know that was the reason and you can choose to continue with this spew of conspiracy sewage if you want. That is your right, after all.
I am not going to argue with you, because I respect you too much. I'll be glad to talk to you, reason with you, listen to you, but I will not side blindly with you. I don't side blindly with anyone - I've always been the one on the fence that tries to mend things, and that's what I'll always be.
I am sorry you feel wronged, but if we all held onto every single misfortune in our lives the way you are holding onto this, I'm sure we'd all be committed. This is where the frustration comes into play. People are frustrated because you keep yelling about all that's wrong, all the ways we've hurt you, but you won't listen to anyone's explanations of why. You say you don't expect an apology? It's a good thing, Artsie, because I am not sure you'd let someone speak long enough to give you one. =o(
And for the love of God, Hedda DID NOT put that heart in your badge slot. He did not put the heart in your badge slot. Hedda, the owner of this site did NOT ever place a heart into your badge slot. Henrik Wallin did not place a small heart graphic inside of your badge slot in your profile. I don't know how many times we have to say it, but it was a mistake made ACCIDENTALLY by Silverfire, who has admitted many, many times that she did it...and she even apologized for it.
Perhaps "grow up and get over it" is a strong way to word it, but something has got to give. The drama is doing nothing for anybody. We care about you, and we miss the old you. We miss the bubbly, cheery person whom we loved chatting with and seeing online. We'd love to have her back ANY time she's ready to come back...but the nasty, childish snotty woman who keeps spouting about conspiracies, computer hacking and secret messages is just really wearing everyone down.
2009-06-23 [Hedda]: I just want to confirm that was [Lerune] said is correct, except for that it was I (not "we") who banned Artsie and it got prolonged because I felt I had to clear some stuff up and I didn't feel like spending time on it right away.
2009-06-23 [Lerune]: And I would like to clarify that I meant we, as in other people had also expressed concern for Artsie in the past. It was ultimately Hedda's decision to ban her, and he would have stood by his decision regardless of whether or not we all agreed with him, it just so happened that several of us supported his decision. Again, not because we wanted to hurt her or were "out to get" her, it was simply because of reasons already stated. Sorry if that sounded as if I was saying that the ban was a community-wide decision. =oP
2009-06-23 [Teufelsweib]: *pops up being the nosy, annoying teen that she is*
hey, I've read the whole damn thing, now I want to be able to give my two coppers on the matter as well!
*hears everyone sighing already* ok ok, I'll try to keep it short.
but as far as I know mainly irritations and frustrations, such as this, are also because people don't speak up plainly. I know it's in my dutchy nature to say bluntly what I feel or what's the matter, and it does sometimes hurt people, but at least you avoid stuff like this.
but one thing is clear: we all want to end this whole discussion. we're all tired of it, we all still respect each other and wish that it could be just like the ole days.
so what if everyone just made a clear list of things they wanted to hear, they wanted to be discussed, questions they wanted answered and by who, and to point out people by name. the damage has already been done and it'll only get worse if we go on pointing fingers randomly at people. so this is mainly for artsie, if you can perhaps speak out plainly and put whatever's on your mind concerning ET and spread it out on the table, I'm sure so many things could be cleared up... to address the people whom it concerns so they can give you an answer and then when all this shit has been cleared out we can all happily be friends again and bake some cake.
and yeah, sorry for bothering and hopping into this discussion again. I just... well, the negativity doesn't belong on a site like ET. and I don't like it, I don't like the bitching everywhere. I mean, I like you guys. and I like you all better when you're talking bout porn and fun stuff instead of spending time on matters like this. and I also like artsie better when she was back making loads of awesome graphics to make this site more sparklier. so if we all just could sit down and talk this out, and get to the point...
2009-06-23 [Lerune]: I do love her sparkly graphics. :D And I see nothing at all wrong with Artsie elaborating on which questions, exactly, that she feels are being pushed under the carpet. =o)
2009-09-11 [Artsieladie]: It would be nice to get to the truth, so this all could be put to rest once and for all. Will the one that's hiding the truth, PLEASE stand up?! I don't believe it is the Council/Crew that's pushing anything under the carpet, if this is any consolation.
I have many more 'sparkly' graphics waiting to be uploaded, probably a couple thousand more, which would have enabled me to be the first to receive the Myriapoda Badge, but I don't think a badge is worth or can replace the damage that's been done to me, especially if the truth cannot be told by one person in particular. If this were to be the case, I'm not a person to hold a grudge. I would just like there to be some accountability for some error in a person's judgment.
God knows that I love to make graphics. What really pisses me off is that I was going to incorporate selling the rights to use my graphics for non-commercial use, that would require people to come to Elftown to get them, all to increase traffic to Elftown and hopefully also increase membership here. But now I have to find another site to upload them all to and then the traffic will have to be directed to that site instead and there's absolutely no benefit to Elftown if I do it this way. But... Hedda says I'm flip-flop in my caring about Elftown. By the looks of this page, I certainly have been flip-flop! Yepp! Yesirre! *grrrrrrrr*
2009-09-11 [Mortified Penguin]: Hiding the truth? That would be me. What specific parts of the truth did you wish to hear?
2009-09-11 [Artsieladie]: I knew the real truth teller would be here! All of them, of course! Now speak! :) Hmm.. Did you say ahhhh ..parts? *thinks as mouth waters* The parts I asked for specifically awhile ago in a 'custom order' at Bob's Diner sounds delectable. Still waiting! If you serve them up, I'll be there ...with bells on! *giggles* You can even add a side order of ramen, if you like. ;) *heads off towards, well, where else?*
2009-12-08 [Artsieladie]: No what SilverFire has said IS NOT TRUE. The little red heart was placed in my badge slot at the same time my Inspector's Badge arrived, which was on 2009-02-15. The date that SilverFire gave of 2009-02-28 is INCORRECT!
2009-12-08 [windowframe]: I badged you several times, to give you credit for various different pieces of work you'd done. I can't remember which exact time it was, because I badged you several times, but I remember doing it. I thought the heart should be there to make the badge slot symmetrical. Later, I realised that the heart was there because it was a Valentine's contest, and thus that symmetry wasn't your intent, so I removed it. I'm sorry I can't remember the exact dates I badged you for various things.
2009-12-08 [Artsieladie]: Ah, I suggest you give it up, because the more you try to explain, the deeper in you're getting. I'm REALLY NOT trying to make a point to say that you're lying. I'm trying to get the person that REALLY did it to stand up and lay claim to the fact that the person did this. But it's not a bad thing that was done! Besides taking a screen capture, I know when it was placed in there, because Hans was with me the day it was done and he was pissed off about it BECAUSE HE WAS JEALOUS!!!
This proves that you DID NOT place the heart in the badge slot (among a couple other aspects you've stated):
"I thought the heart should be there to make the badge slot symmetrical. Later, I realised that the heart was there because it was a Valentine's contest"
..Because 'the' first heart "I" had placed in the badge slot was originally "symmetrical" and it was between St. Valentine Poets and Donors of Writing (in the middle) as can be seen here in this screen capture I sent to [Hedda] Sent 2009-02-15 17:31:56 (which took place just before my Inspector's badge arrived AND the little red heart):
...Because I was seeing red and blue colours in my secret diary. Very pretty they were!
So no, you did NOT place it in there to make anything symmetrical. When it was placed in there, after the one "I" already had in there as explained previously, it was placed just to the left of the Inspector's link, which was to the right of MY symmetrical one, which then did make my badge slot no longer symmetrical. "I" then moved MY original little red heart over to the left and placed it between St. Valentine Painters and St Valentine Poets, so I wouldn't have to disturb the "original placing" of the heart to the left of the Inspector link.
But just to now TELL THE REAL TRUTH in regards to my heart placed in my badge slot, it was [Hedda] that placed it in there when he delivered to me my Inspector's Badge on the day after Valentine's Day although he is 'saying' that he did not, which is a BIG, FAT LIE! ...AND it was also HE that removed it WHEN HE BANNED ME. He removed it just to let me know how pissed off he was I would even consider leaving Elftown, regardless what he may be telling others. That cock-a-meme story he concocted about I was going to delete stuff? It was just a lame excuse he came up with to lay blame on me, make "me" look like I was the lunatic. Well, folks, I CANNOT DELETE ANYTHING FROM HEDDA'S SERVER! ..And HE knows this nor did I have the priv of 13 or lower to delete any wiki-pages.
Hedda needs to stand up now and tell the truth. He also told me that "I" chased Lerune away from Elf12. [Lerune] told me that this is not true, as I knew it wasn't and isn't.
Apparently Hedda can make someone appear to be in another place, even if they've never ACTUALLY been there in their life.. like I. I was made to look like I was in Massachusetts! Hedda IS, I repeat.. IZ.. a whole lot more clever than apparently anyone here on Elftown is aware of. If you all knew about his "extra curricular activities", well, not too many of you would likely even want to stay here!
Oh, maybe he'll be willing to also disclose to everyone what he was busy doing while he had me banned? Perhaps, he would also like to disclose why he deleted a diary entry I had made in regards to a "call to myself" (or so it was made to appear so.. the call, that is.) ..Perhaps, he would also like to disclose "why" HE deleted my Valentine contest image from my drawing history? Perhaps, he would now like to be truthful about a lot of stuff, a lot of things?
Perhaps he will tell us all how cleverly he knows just how to impersonate another? ...Or how clever he "thought" he was when he deleted an email account and so the email HE sent to someone, not just putting me down, but SLAMMING me down, would hopefully go poof? It's really too bad however, all this effort was for naught, because the email was printed out and a number of copies were made! But messing with yours truly here and being able to get away with it, by making things look like this has been ALL me.. is one thing. However, messing with a Fed IS NOT VERY SMART! Oh well! Truthtime is coming a lot sooner than apparently anyone here wants to believe. Don't say I didn't warn everyone!
..And to think how many times I have told Hedda that if he would just come clean with me, tell me why he started all of this, I would be willing to listen and try to understand from his perspective and if he would set things right, stop what he's doing, I would give him a completely CLEAN slate, total forgiveness and guess what I still got in return? More of the same. So Hedda will have NO ONE to blame but himself when his piper bill rolls in and all those people that he said he would trust his life with? Let's see how these folks will like to find out how they have been used as well.
It was Hedda that pitted people against me, but neither I nor those he was pitting were aware. Meanwhile, he's been sitting on the sidelines enjoying the drama unfolding and relishing that no one has even considered the fact that it has been HE that has single-handedl
Perhaps, he would also like to explain HIS ROLE in how things went wrong between Sunrose and I? How he used her against me and how he used me against her? ..And perhaps, too, he would like to explain "why" it was so damn important to him that she and I would never get to the point of "comparing notes"? But perhaps, more importantly, what HE did to ensure we NEVER would? He has somehow failed to tell others about HIS OWN paranoia though fed by his guilty conscience. Shall I?
How about how he KNEW SO QUICKLY that I had uploaded my Galadriel art to Box.net and how quickly HE then downloaded it from Box.net? Within MINUTES!
I know people have said several times that I should bring everything out I have. Here's the main reason why I have not: I like Hedda. I do not like what he's done, but fortunately for him, I have managed to see more about him than just his "extra curricular activities". So I keep on hoping that he will eventually do the right thing and show accountability like a mature adult would. I also don't want to instigate the complete downfall of his sites and/or livelihood. I know that if I do bring out and "show 'n' tell" everything I have, the very common "common denominator" will be spelled out in spades. But if HE isn't going to do the right thing, then this leaves me to have to do it for him, because there is no way, no how that I am going to just leave things as they are, with everyone left thinking the worst of me, while he escapes any and all blame whatsoever. Besides, there are several others that deserve to know the truth, how he started the fire, but then left everyone else that ultimately got pulled into this mess besides myself, left without any viable means to extinguish it and then ever so often, he would throw a little more fuel onto the fire and always unsuspected and unseen by others. He always knows and knew that I have seen him do things, because I've told him when I caught him, but because he had gotten everyone to disbelieve anything I would say, he knew he could get away with anything and never get detected or even suspected.
But there are a couple people here now that have put at least some of the pieces together and it's only a matter of time before others will as well. So ultimately, he is going to be burning down his own site even if I don't "show 'n' tell".
2011-05-06 [Sir_Hans]: I am one of the witnesses of the heart being placed in Sharon's badge slot. It was NOT done by SilverFire. It was done by Hedda, as it was also he who removed it as well. There are witnesses and screen captures but there is also irrefutable evidence with a technology not yet available to the general public which Hedda doesn't have knowledge of and therefore does not know how to counter play it.
Interesting - [Elftron]: "Was last seen 866 days ago. (Logged out)" This information was added to this presentation (although while logged out) about the same time as the news article was placed referring to: "Upgraded to Roxen Webserver 5.1.185 (with Pike 7.8.534) 2011-04-18." The news article: Date: 2011-04-18 01:20:52 News #: 590 Reporter: Hedda
[True, plain and simple] wrote in Sharon's guestbook: ""He must have also rigged it so that you never went to the invite page to invite Hans too, right? Because the screenshots showed that as well."
Sharon was said to be the liar. I guess Hedda "did" rig the invite page after all. It has been proven she did invite me. Who's the liar? Who rigged what? Fooling True, plain and simple is mighty clever! If Hedda can fool him, it would be reasonable to assume Hedda can also fool just about anyone else here on this site.
The cat must have everyone's tongue around here. The Calls_To_Myself page and its affiliated links clearly and directly point towards and placing Hedda under undeniable suspicion, but no one here has anything to say now? -noted-
-Hans
2011-05-06 [Hedda]: How the fuck is it "interesting" that I updated [Elftron]'s presentation without logging in as that user?
Please, go away! I have no idea what the other shit is about and I seriously don't give a crap. It doesn't matter what I write, because you're just going to waste more of my time.
2011-05-08 [Sunrose]: Hedda pitted us against each other? Seriously. It seems to me that all the accusations you are expressing towards Hedda now, were at first in fact all expressed towards me.
I was the one who put you on the Council. At some point it seemed to me you had trouble communicating with him. On one hand his bluntness seemed to offend you, on the other hand you seemed to try and please him too much (in my opinion). So I tried to help you, which I have done for others too. I wish someone had done that for me when I became crew, so I wouldn't have been in so many arguments for taking things far too seriously.
Instead you were offended, because you felt I was saying that because I tried to keep you away from him. You became defensive saying it was your choice to want to please him or not. I never disagreed with that, but to me it came across as if you were doing it because you were in love with him rather than you actually liking the ideas. Generally it's not very constructive if someone just agrees to everything out of pure admiration (or fear), so that would be something I'd want to prevent.
At some point I told you he can read private messages, which every site owner actually can. I told you he probably was reading messages, because I knew for a fact he has sometimes read mine. But personally I didn't care about that, you however made it out as if he was constantly reading everything you were writing. Which is not what I had said.
Then we had an msn-conversati
After that a friend sent me a link that I was stupid enough to click. It turned out to be a virus and it was sent to all my online friends. I had to shut off my msn, as to not have it keep sending it to everyone. I deleted msn from my computer and reinstalled the program. Since that took me some time, it took a while for me to get back online to warn the online friends not to click that stupid link.
Funnily, you are the only one who sought something behind it. You started telling everyone I had tried to infect your computer with a virus on purpose. And a lot of people believed you, at that point I became the bitch of Elftown. Thanks for that BTW.
By now you have changed your story and tell everyone that a 'third' person was in that conversation. And you won't believe me anyway, just like you don't believe Silverfire. It’s funny how you and Hans were “witness” to this heart being placed by Hedda, when neither of you can actually know who was doing the editing. You could only see the heart being there and the heart being gone at a certain point in time. Plus, True actually proved it wasn’t Hedda.
Other people don't log everything in journals and screenshots, so details get lost. Especially when it's about something they didn't actually think about as being important, because it simply wasn't important. If we could have all foreseen this shit happening, we would have made different choices beforehand.
Anyhoo. After that you actually went behind my back asking around about me. Somehow you concocted the theory that Hedda and I were romantically involved in some way. Most of my arguments with Hedda took place on MSN, so on Elftown we'd more often already agree on things. Apparently this lead for more people to believe that I fancied him and was trying to lick his ass or something. But you and they couldn't have been more wrong. I think there haven't been many on crew he has had more arguments about Elftown with than me.
Furthermore I have never been involved with him, I actually had a boyfriend during the time of your accusations. Somehow I was however made out to be a scorned woman, rejected by Hedda and jealous of you. And Hedda was trying to keep us apart, to prevent me from telling you what he did. He did NOTHING to me. We are still friends, the only bad thing he did was to not protect me from your crazy accusations. He has shown me things you have written, because they involved me and showed how you were trying to make me look bad towards him and pretty much everyone else I know on here.
It are these stupid accusations that got me to turn against you, you did that all by yourself. Why should I like someone who's saying all these things about me?
As for ideas being ripped apart and then used anyway, this isn’t new. It’s also not new that Hedda would say something, and then not back the person up later. People can change their minds and Hedda isn’t tactical to begin with nor reads all that people write (so he could’ve not cared about something or missed postings he should’ve seen). So you're not special in that respect, it has happened to all of us at some point in time.
When talking about tooting your horn, you aren't the only one who hasn't always been recognised for his or her work. It would often take a while, but you were the only one who at some point started to gripe about it. All the time. And since people generally don't like that, it might have caused for you to not get the things you wanted as fast as you wanted them. Other crewmembers don’t “arrange” for awards being given to them, they don’t have a say in that. I think most of the gripe was about the beaver badge, this badge is however one of the hardest to give out because there aren’t really any rules for it. After I became council it took 2 years for me to get the top beaver badge, it took you 2,5 years. That’s not a very big difference. Especially not when taking into account that I also got it for my guardwork, not just for all the wiki’s I made and organised.
I think it's obvious why for instance you weren't promoted to Guard, there were simply way too many problems in working together with you. There were already enough things to do, they didn't need arguments on top of that.
At first people didn’t see you for what you were. They thought I was exaggerating and should just ignore it. But after I resigned, the accusations started to shift towards other female crewmembers such as Silverfire and Lothuriel (suddenly they were in love with Hedda too). This was very interesting and opened a lot of peoples’ eyes. Somehow you rarely seemed to have issues with male members. Granted there weren’t a lot of male crew in comparison to female crew, but they were present and they’d also speak up in reply to your accusations.
It’s been more than three years since I resigned and this shit is still going on. You even managed to chase off one of my best friends on here, being True. You have been telling people you’d spill the beans on Hedda for ages, long before I resigned. You keep resurrecting wiki’s about it, writing diaries about it, even sending me messages and guestbooks about it. Or getting that Hans guy to send me crap, as recent as last week. You visit my wiki’s and write fake friendly comments, or follow me around on other wiki’s. I consider that harassment and have and will keep reporting it.
I don’t care if you like Hedda, if there are beans to spill and you think everyone should know then spill them already. Please set us all free. Or keep us out of it, if you only want Hedda to explain it to you.
All this time I could’ve posted copies of our messages, as to disprove things you were saying about me. But I didn’t, because that would’ve been the attention you were looking for and it would've been pointless as you rarely actually listen.
Since this crap is still continuing I felt I should give my 2 cents. I however want you to leave me out of this, stop mentioning me or referring to me in some way. It should be clear by now that I want nothing to do with you, Hans, your family, your crap or whatever. I advised for Hedda to ban you 3-4 years ago and I still do. If you keep this up I will continue to do so. He seems to be able to tolerate you, but that might end at some point.
2011-10-10 [Sir_Hans]: -Noted-
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2011-10-10 [Mortified Penguin]: -Noting your note-
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